atmuh Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 people like eggs more than brawl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 Have all the rules been established? Just finished them up a minute ago. Stages banned are set and rules have been established. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_C Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I would sign up if not for the fact that I'll be in Colorado for the duration... and nowhere near a Wii *cries* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Sigh, I was stuck at work when you were accepting suggestions. I was going to get all gay about the rules a la Smashboards, but the only rule change I would really like to see is a change from single to double elimination. Otherwise, it's going to suck for the poor bastard who has to play G-T first round. That, or ban G-T. Oh yeah, I'll be entering this, and possibly my wife. Doesn't that count as signing up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 I totally didn't see that. What shall I sign her up as, just in case she wishes to enter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabloshadow Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 It all depends if I work or not. Id like to participate but my work schedule is all funky atm. I will message ya Arek if all goes to plan. If not GL to all playing but most importantly have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I totally didn't see that. What shall I sign her up as, just in case she wishes to enter? She's definitely entering. Sign her up as Ocean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 Got her in And ya, if the participation is kinda low, I am going to do double elimination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity's End Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 The Brawl lyrics got deleted with the old thread, so I'm doing you all a favor by reposting them: ali babaaaaaa eee eee oooo so lissy hostess bee fee fa fee hussy mommy ali babaaaaaa eee eee oooo foody flay fair to be eating a spoon (yeeeeees) (sopranos) all of him are idiots (tenors) all loathy from are idiots bell asshat beeboos we found a they found a need to speak ONE DAY Wii Playyyyyyyyy AHHHHH IT'S GOT ME Wii Playyyyyyyy So it is Arby's So cheese, let me be We only need for theirs leemonairs went ahhhhhh They found no Would nod no despair to play Sheik! (yes, I'm fully aware the real lyrics are in Latin. These are much more fun!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eten Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I can work with anything, but just a question, why are so many stages banned? Here's as good place as any for stage discussion, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I can work with anything, but just a question, why are so many stages banned?Here's as good place as any for stage discussion, I suppose. -Luigi's Mansion house stops momentum and makes it very difficult to fight -Mushroomy Kingdom moving stages are terrible -Rumble Falls moving plus the spike 1 hit kills -Norfair lava is terrible in the 3 ways it can hit you plus small platforms -Spear Pillar awful -Port Town Aero Dive cars kill at 30% -WarioWare, Inc. invincibility is randomly awarded -New Pork City huge and terrible -Summit cant grab ledge and fish is a fag -Skyworld really easy to get screwed over in -75 M huge and terrible -Mario Bros stage kills way too easily -Hanenbow incredibly horrible stage -Temple (Melee) way too big for 1v1 -Onett (Melee) cars and no ledges -Rainbow Cruise (Melee) moving stage where you can get screwed -Big Blue (Melee) easy to get screwed over in -Brinstar (Melee) lava is terrible id have also banned a few others like the bridge but thats me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendlyHunter Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 The tournament ends right after sign ups start. THE TOURNAMENT WILL LAST LONGER THAN A DAY SO STOP FREAKING OUT. Heh, sorry for "freaking out", but if I have to play my first game within the first 1 or two weeks of the tournament, I'm screwed. Because: 1) Vast amounts of homework may make me unable to play... plus I've yet to try out the online with friends mode. 2) I'm "screwed" in the sense that I'll totally lose, since I don't even know which characters I'm best with at this point (and the fact that I'm leaning towards YOSHI has me somewhat intrigued). Also 95% of my Brawling has been lag-free offline stuff, so I'd need some more online experience before playing... There are even some hidden characters that I haven't unlocked, so I'm screwed if I'm up against any of those guys. If the online capabilities allow it, I'll have to choose Captain Falcon and nicely ask my opponent to "show me your moves". [Edit] Big list of banned stages Wow, I can actually agree with that list! (well, excluding the stages I haven't unlocked yet...) Is the Game N Watch stage supposed to be on the banned list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Author Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 -WarioWare, Inc. invincibility is randomly awarded Not random, but I agree that it is almost random some times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Not random, but I agree that it is almost random some times. actually it is COMPLETELY RANDOM when you win a microgame you either get huge invincible or something else (damage recovered?) COMPLETELY RANDOMLY and yes flat zone 2 is a total joke and should be banned as well the current unofficial list of banned stages is Mushroomy Kingdom Mario Circuit Rumble Falls Bridge of Eldin Pokemon Stadium 2 Spear Pillar Port Town Aero Dive Skyworld WarioWare, Inc. Distant Planet Summit 75m Mario Bros. Flat Zone 2 Pictochat Hanenbow Shadow Moses Island Green Hill Zone (Singles only) Temple - Melee Yoshi's Island - Melee Onett - Melee Big Blue - Melee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendlyHunter Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Not random, but I agree that it is almost random some times. I thought beating minigames randomly makes you invincible, just as it can randomly make you big? Or do you mean to say the pseudorandom number generator used by Brawl is not random enough? [Edit] I been "Jacked"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critical Hit Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Awesome Brawl lyrics. This made my day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eten Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Luigi's mansion is destroyable. It just turns into a final destination once it's broken down. There is nothing unfair about that. For norfair, All lava is w/ warning and predictable, the wave and jets can even be shielded, there is nothing about small platforms that defines them as unfair. Spear pillar has absolutely excessive hazards with little warning, in addition to the ceiling-tech happy tunnel, I'm in agreement. In port town, there are guaranteed safe zones from cars at every stop, there is visual warning of approaching cars. Total complete agreement about wario ware. New pork city is huge, agreement. In Summit you can't grab ledge but that shouldn't define it for a ban(there is nothing to say that a stage has to have ledges), and the fish can be reliably avoided. There is no single element in summit that clearly defines it for a ban, despite it being a really screwy course. In skyworld, be better at screwing other people over than they are to you! No element involved that should make it a ban. After stalling in a random brawl from 2 people for a minute as zelda on 75m, it has the same effect as being huge, agreement. Mario Bros. is a mess of problems, too many to list them all. HANENBOW IS INCREDIBLY NON-HORRIBLE, STOP GETTING CONFUSED BY BRIGHT COLORS AND LEARN THE STAGE. Temple is huge. Onett has wimpy knockback cars with warning, and there is nothing inherently unfair about no ledges. Finally, both Rainbow Cruise and Brinstar were counterpickable in the melee competitive scene, absolutely no reason for them to be banned now. I don't like to arbitrarily define what's unfair/fair. For the sake of competition, random elements like items and wario ware can be removed. The same goes for stalling on huge courses or any course w/ a circular path. Rumble Falls and Mushroomy Kingdom have issues where they change the game into a forced scrolling platformer, and a poor one at that. However that doesn't mean that everything that is random has to be removed. There is a clear difference between the lava waves in norfair to having a bob-omb drop in your face while you perform a smash move or getting only 10% health recovery instead of invincibility in the wario ware stage(even if you complete the mini-games, the reward is random and there is a dramatic difference between each reward). Oh, and I'm fine w/ any ruleset. I'm speaking about this in terms of the overall picture for Brawl and the attitude towards stages. A variety is good here, but a lot of stages get disliked for extremely arbitrary reasons.(Hanenbow being the perfect example- 0 random elements, nothing which deals damage, it's a series of variable slope platforms, and yet you got at-muh liking it to be banned because it's "horrible") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 I was being generous with FlatZone because I know that SOME of you love the "random" feel. It isn't nearly as bad as any other stage, but it can be banned just as easily if people don't want it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I vote for it being banned. The rest of your choices, I'm in agreement with as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonectric Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 BANBANBANBANBANBANBANBANBANBAN God, this is why competitive people irritate me. Not to cause any sparks or anything. I just think that environmental forces and random events aren't necessarily a bad thing. They spice things up a little more. And a lot of things on your list are definitely controllable, as Eten said. "No ledges" is a completely ridiculous reason for banning a stage. Basically the insane stages are my favorites. :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 You casuals are eating a spicy dish while we tournament players are eating a sundae. Take your spice somewhere else because no matter how much you argue your point, we aren't going to care. And with that, can we stop with the "tournament players suck/casuals suck" discussions...for like good? Also, don't comment on shit that you aren't involved in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonectric Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Also, don't comment on shit that you aren't involved in. Hey, there's a reason I'm not involved in it. But I will drop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 ya if youre gonna be in a tourney expect it to be played by the competitive rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 so yeah i guess i'll sign up hope you guys are down for brawls at 2 or 3 a.m. est. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul v2 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I haven't been on the past 3 days, but what stages are you talking about? I can understand the DK Waterfall stage, because no one wants to play it and it sucks. I understand Warioware, because of random powerups, Pork City, because its way too huge, and Mushroomy Kingdom because it forces you to keep up with the side scrolling. Flatzone is only bad when the jail is in the middle of it, but I don't have a problem with it. I don't mind the other ones, and banning them for being picky because of one element, like Metaknight's stage, is kinda lame. Also I guess I should look into buying a wavebird, because apparently you can do so much more with a wavebird that it you practically have to buy it to be good. It sucks, i know. E: But yeah, I'm i'll play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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