Devyn Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Until we have a place like Amsterdam on our continent, quit yer bitchin'. Alright? Quote
Kiyosuki Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Generally I hear that the heavy power or defensive characters have gotten a huge boost in this, part due to character specific tweaks and part due to changes in the game itself like being a little slower all around etc. Bowser will probably still kind of suffer from the same downfalls though, though when I tried him out he seemed a lot more solid and his new Piledriver move was awesome. Though you got Snake who has surprisingly incredible durability and very effective setup moves, a great recovery move, very little stun time, and other assorted tricks...Zelda who got a pretty noticable boost, Dedede who's a large power character type like Bowser but with stalling moves (pulling those Waddle Dees out of his ass etc), weaker but quicker moves with range, and fantastic recovery options since he can float like Kirby and do a big super jump too...and so on I do have to wonder what Bowser brings to the table aside from style and fun(which is maybe enough for most though. lol). We'll just have to try him out. I have a feeling things are going to be a little different this time around in terms of who's used and strategies compared to Melee thanks to the Wi-Fi battling. Being able to practice with other great players any time at home I bet will make a huge difference. Quote
nookster Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Until we have a place like Amsterdam on our continent, quit yer bitchin'. Alright? I'm there at least once a week. Don't know how it compares to not having smashbros. Care to elaborate? Quote
Kiyosuki Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 I'm starting to hear talk of Snake having a so called "glitch" on his Cypher move where if someone grabs him when he's doing the move and cancels it, he can't do it again. I don't know if it's a genuine glitch or paranoid gamers jumping the gun as usual yet but it's worth note. Quote
atmuh Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 bowser was awesome in melee without the glitches he now sucks Quote
Tensei Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Until we have a place like Amsterdam on our continent, quit yer bitchin'. Alright? *whistles nonchalantly* You rang? Quote
atmuh Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 I'm starting to hear talk of Snake having a so called "glitch" on his Cypher move where if someone grabs him when he's doing the move and cancels it, he can't do it again. I don't know if it's a genuine glitch or paranoid gamers jumping the gun as usual yet but it's worth note. thats not a glitch you can knock his copter off and make him unable to use it again its a WEAKNESS Quote
Devyn Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Just kidding about the whole Amsterdam thing. There's no substitute for Brawl, although I'm sure a trip to Amsterdam would be an 'enlightening' experience. Quote
Kiyosuki Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 thats not a glitch you can knock his copter off and make him unable to use it againits a WEAKNESS The reason it's called a glitch is apparently because if he's knocked off the Cypher with regular hits of any sort he can just do it again right after no problem like anyone else with their recovery move. But if someone grabs him when he's doing his recovery in the air he can't, even if the move is input again. I don't have any experience on this and even if it is true it sounds so situational that I think it's just silly drama to worry about it too much. Quote
nookster Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Just kidding about the whole Amsterdam thing. There's no substitute for Brawl, although I'm sure a trip to Amsterdam would be an 'enlightening' experience. You do know you can do softdrugs anywhere in the netherlands right? Not just Amsterdam. on topic, How long does it typically take to complete SSE? Is it twice as long as Adventure mode from brawl? Longer? And the bonuses (like smash artist, butterfingers etc) are they back? Quote
atmuh Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 You do know you can do softdrugs anywhere in the netherlands right? Not just Amsterdam.on topic, How long does it typically take to complete SSE? Is it twice as long as Adventure mode from brawl? Longer? And the bonuses (like smash artist, butterfingers etc) are they back? ive played subspace for 3 hours and am 30% done some of that time has me leaving it paused but not a whole lot so yes it is long and i cant read moonspeak so i have no idea what the bonuses are Quote
Castle Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 I'm starting to hear talk of Snake having a so called "glitch" on his Cypher move where if someone grabs him when he's doing the move and cancels it, he can't do it again. I don't know if it's a genuine glitch or paranoid gamers jumping the gun as usual yet but it's worth note. It's paranoid gamers. At 2:11, he mistakenly uses the missle instead of the Cypher. 2:54, he DOES use the Cypher, but only after accidentally dropping a grenade. At the end he presses the wrong thing and ends up falling to his death. Just looks like the Snake player has slippery fingers, that's all. Quote
Scufo Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Apparently Bowser's new suplex thing (Koopa Claw initiates it) is impossible to escape from once grabbed, making for pretty ridiculous suicide attacks. He does it 3 times to Lucas here, and it ends in sudden death. Quote
Kiyosuki Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 His new piledriver move is just awesome, it's just the kind of move Bowser needed in his arsenal. Not just for the suicide purposes but that's pretty fun too. Quote
Scufo Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 What I'm thinking is that a lot of Bowsers will just try to get a one stock lead and then koopa claw koopa claw koopa claw koopa claw etc. Though I guess it could only work on small stages. Quote
Kiyosuki Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Heh, wouldn't it be an interesting turn of events if Bowser ended up being broken in this? Quote
Tables Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Wait a minute, what have I just read? No Race to the Finish in brawl? =( Quote
Global-Trance Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Wait a minute, what have I just read?No Race to the Finish in brawl? =( No Board the Platform either. Quote
MaxFrost Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 I've had a chance to play Brawl already, played with just about everybody cept some of the unlockables, and the new bowser is awesome. I like slow guys, and I was fairly good with bowser in melee, but the brawl bowser is soo much faster. Quote
ILLiterate Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 thats not a glitch you can knock his copter off and make him unable to use it againits a WEAKNESS Kind of wrongIf you attack him with just about any other move he can use the up b again pretty quickly and gain even more air with it. If you actually grab the robot he falls really fast and has a huge moment in time where he just can't use it, we tried it out today and it is FACT Quote
Kiyosuki Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 It sounds like kind of a drag, though wouldn't the opponent only be able to grab him at the tip of the ledge only? It'd be very annoying coming back to the stage from certain angles...but I'd think it wouldn't be too hard to dodge. Quote
friendlyHunter Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 So, crouching and walking at the same time (i.e. crawling) is still in the game, right? Is it actually useful for anything? What do Samus, Kirby, Metaknight, Dedede, and ROB look like when they crawl?? Quote
Arrow Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 So, crouching and walking at the same time (i.e. crawling) is still in the game, right? Is it actually useful for anything? What do Samus, Kirby, Metaknight, Dedede, and ROB look like when they crawl?? Not sure what the others look like, but there's footage on Youtube of Snake in SSE crawling. Naturally he looks the same as he does crawling in any other Metal Gear Solid title, but the fact remains that crawling's still in. Quote
friendlyHunter Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Shit, awesome Dojo update! For those too lazy to check it out: You can switch between Samus and Zero Suit Samus mid-fight by pressing your up/down/up taunt buttons really fast. Also there's a movie that I'm in the process of watching... Quote
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