samurai_of_plague Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Does anybody other than me still like this game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensei Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 No we all hate it and it's bannable to mention it. Yeah but seriously, it's not as good as DKC 2 but still a very nice game (except the fucking bonus rooms) which had some amazing graphics back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai_of_plague Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 ya for sure idk, i they all just fell in line, so i really have no favorite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazygecko Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Another average collect-a-thon platformer released during the most turbulent period for the genre, with sub-par collision detection, and clearly a rushed release when you look at the amount of bugs and glitches present. Pretty much still the most overrated game in history, given the scores magazines gave it at the time (One even gave it above 100%, goes to show how mature and sensible gaming journalism was back then). Shigeru Miyamoto didn't like it either, I think that says something at least. There were several platformers out in the same period that were much more creative and refined, like Ristar or Yoshi's Island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 dkc is one of those games that everyone says is overrated because one guy said it and of course disagreeing with the what they originally thought is the popular opinion is all people know how to do dkc is one of the best platformers for the snes and anyone who disagrees needs to get their head out of their ass and realize that every other SNES platformer that wasn't a Mario game was shitty also as long as we're talking about overrated games FF7 is still actually pretty good and Halo is still better than Halo 2/3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 also as long as we're talking about overrated games FF7 is still actually pretty good and Halo is still better than Halo 2/3 I agree with this message, especially when you compare them to stuff released at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenucha Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 I have always enjoyed DCK2 over the original. I have never been to big on DKC3 (but wouldn't mind finding a used copy thats not $30... damn!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizyr Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 I agree with this message, especially when you compare them to stuff released at the same time. I think the main thing is just to figure out if a particular game is fun or not. So what if some people would rate it more highly than it might deserve? It shouldn't affect how good the game itself actually is. As far as "overrated" games go, there are some I like (Halo), some I don't like (FF7), and some I didn't like at first but now really do (FF6). I remember DKC as being pretty fun. I don't care about collecting everything, but I enjoyed playing it. It wasn't the best game for the SNES or particularly groundbreaking, but I still liked it. KF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekofrog Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Shigeru Miyamoto didn't like it either, I think that says something at least. Because it beat the shit out of his final 2d masterpiece in terms of sales -- no, that's not even fair. It beat the shit out of it, raped its corpse, pissed on it, and threw it into a pile. Time has been more fair to Yoshi's Island than DKC, so eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 As far as "overrated" games go, there are some I like (Halo), some I don't like (FF7), and some I didn't like at first but now really do (FF6). see that's exactly the thing we can give video games arbitrary ratings all we want but in the end all that matters is whether or not we have fun playing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazygecko Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 dkc is one of those games that everyone says is overrated because one guy said it and of course disagreeing with the what they originally thought is the popular opinion is all people know how to dodkc is one of the best platformers for the snes and anyone who disagrees needs to get their head out of their ass and realize that every other SNES platformer that wasn't a Mario game was shitty also as long as we're talking about overrated games FF7 is still actually pretty good and Halo is still better than Halo 2/3 It was my impression from playing it a few years after release, after reading into the unprecedented amount of hype and praise from the press. It's not a bandwagon thing. Take away the graphics and DK brand and I wouldn't be able to tell it apart from the myriad of uninspired Disney games coming out during that period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 It was my impression from playing it a few years after release, after reading into the unprecedented amount of hype and praise from the press. It's not a bandwagon thing. Take away the graphics and DK brand and I wouldn't be able to tell it apart from the myriad of uninspired Disney games coming out during that period. Oh yeah, definitely. Take away the breakthrough graphics, awesome soundtrack, great game mechanics that thematically fit well with each of the animal characters, and multi-faceted levels, and there's nothing left. The game is clearly shitty, I agree with you all the way. And because the game involved animals of some sort (it doesn't matter what), it's Disney-like, I agree with you 102%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Pizza Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Does anybody other than me still like this game? In answer to the original question, yes. I still like Donkey Kong Country and I like it better than DKC 2. I've still yet to get the 101% in under an hour. I think my fastest time is 1hr 1min or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekofrog Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Funny aside: when DKC1 first came out, GamePro ran a contest to see who could get the highest percentage by some specific time. You had to take a picture of yourself next to the TV displaying the score; I did so with a 96% or 98%. I was about ten at the time, and I won a Super Nintendo GameGenie from doing that. I might've even been in the magazine, I don't know. I never actually got the issue with the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Falling Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 I am still very much into the DKC series today. DKC1 was the first game I ever played on a SNES, and didn't own one myself untill late 1996, when DKC3 came out. I was a kid, so the hype thing never even got to me. Heck, I didn't even know what hype was. I like how after 12 years I can still play through every level, knowing exactly what to find where, in all 3 games. Now if only I had room in my brain for new, usefull information... I probably would have never found OCremix if I hadn't played DKC2 and heard it's awesome soundtrack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCvgluvr Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 I think the origianl DKC is the worst of the series. But, that's like saying 1 chick is the ugliest out of 3 uber-sexy chicks. Yeah, the "DKC series is overrated" bandwagon is pathetic. I am 100% serious when I say that DKC2 is one of the best games ever made. Soooo many good memories...*Daydreams* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 I've never been a fan of the DKC games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenwarlord Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 With the exception of the soundtrack, I found them to be pretty mediocre. Fairly average with a shiny coat. But I'll be darned if i haven't arranged that Bonus Theme from DKC for a'capella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybell Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 The level design is so much better and more creative in DKC2. I actually have a hard time playing DKC1 ever since I beat the second one; the design is so simple by comparison. It's still an alright game. A little overrated (basically, everything was decent except the graphics which were REVOLUTIONARYOMG, and even those haven't held up that well over time.) Still, it's okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipode Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 I always thought DKC and its two sequels (though the third less so) were fantastic games. I grew up with these games and simply had a ton of fun with them before I'd ever even considered reading any kind of reviews of them or heard any feedback about them to know how highly rated they were. They train you to look for excellently designed secrets hidden in the environment (Why is that one banana a couple pixels to the left of the others? Jump to the left and boom, there's a bonus room in the wall) and had the fantastic addition of all the animals, each with individual physics (very distinct senses of speed and weight), and awesome special abilities (especially the spiderweb platforms Squitter shoots) with each that could be used to reach more out of the way bonus rooms later if you're careful enough to hang on to the animals. Plus, I love the barrel mechanic - that you have to carry and protect one through a level without jumping on a single enemy until reaching something that looks suspicious enough to use it. Like the bombing idea in metroid except you have only one and you have to be extremely careful what you do with it. And oh by the way, the best-looking graphics on SNES in part due to diverse, atmospheric and beautiful looking environments, and a series-wide soundtrack in my top 3 of all time. Not too bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai_of_plague Posted August 8, 2008 Author Share Posted August 8, 2008 i think my favorite of the 3 is DKC2. for some reason it was alot better than the third, and had alot better controls than the first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coop Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Yeah, the "DKC series is overrated" bandwagon is pathetic. If I might ask, how is it pathetic? Not everyone looks for (or likes) the same things as magazine reviewers. I personally enjoyed the hell out of Wild Metal on the Dreamcast, yet it received less than favorable reviews. I haven't even come across someone else who liked it. Yet Half Life 2, a game that was praised up and down for virtually every little aspect, was average at best to me. Some games just don't strike a chord with you, while others seem to strike one with only you. That's what leads people to feeling something is under or over rated. Sure, there are some who go mindlessly along with things like bandwagons or system hate "just because", but is it really that hard to believe someone couldn't like an entry in the DKC series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazygecko Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Oh yeah, definitely. Take away the breakthrough graphics, awesome soundtrack, great game mechanics that thematically fit well with each of the animal characters, and multi-faceted levels, and there's nothing left. The game is clearly shitty, I agree with you all the way. And because the game involved animals of some sort (it doesn't matter what), it's Disney-like, I agree with you 102%. Either my points didn't come across clear enough or you grossly misunderstood what I was saying. Take away the graphics = Remove the pre-rendered 3D aspect which left everyone in awe at the time. Take away the brand = The game was based on an already established Nintendo franchise, essentially a license game. Disney = When I think of the most average, run-of-the-mill platformers at the time I think of Jungle Book, Aladdin, those kinds of games. Has nothing to do with furries. If I might ask, how is it pathetic? Not everyone looks for (or likes) the same things as magazine reviewers. I personally enjoyed the hell out of Wild Metal on the Dreamcast, yet it received less than favorable reviews. I haven't even come across someone else who liked it. Yet Half Life 2, a game that was praised up and down for virtually every little aspect, was average at best to me. I haven't really seen any counter-arguments to my points on what brings the game down, other "Well I think it's fun!". Well, more power to you then. I enjoyed plenty of games in my childhood that are considered less-than-stellar. However I am trying to judge the game objectively here, on how it stands out from the competition at the time. That's pretty much what you do when you review most games. It's like some people take outright offense if they feel their jolly nostalgic memories are discredited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audity Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 The point of being objective is? WELL I SUPPOSE the only benefit of such is to counter those who mix nostalgia with objectivity. Oh right, nostalgia doesn't factor in with objectivity; I forgot! As for me, I never owned the games, or felt like owning them after playing them at friends'/relatives' houses. But they were always really unique to me, and have the utmost respect to those who have an attachment to the games. Plus, I must have liked Disney games :} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCvgluvr Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 If I might ask, how is it pathetic? Not everyone looks for (or likes) the same things as magazine reviewers. This isn't pathetic. If you're one of these people who genuinely didn't enjoy DKC, I'm not going to judge you. I might find your taste in games questionable, but it's not like you're a bad person because of it. Sure, there are some who go mindlessly along with things like bandwagons or system hate "just because" Now this is pathetic. If you're one of these people (and most DKC haters are), then I have no respect for you. Gecko, DKC was anything but average for its time. And yes, I'm speaking objectively. If you can't see that, you're rather short-sighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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