djpretzel Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navi Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Crunk as a mofo. I've always found myself liking Shna's "hard to appreciate/stomach" works, like this one, Hunter's Community Chest, Rare Mineral Addict, etc. I really can't explain why. Unlike Israfel, I'm not a wealth of music technical know (not trying to be sarcastic, btw), rather, I'm a listener, sometimes maker (I won't deny that Chauffage Au Gaz was influenced by Shna's work), who loves deviations from the norm. Shna's "abstractions" never come off as messy or to me. Lo fi, almost always. Experimental, for sure. Confusing, sometimes. Requiring of many, many listens? Always. Each time I listen to a Shnamix, I find new things that I like about it, new sections that sound very cool, experiments with sound that stimulate. Meh, maybe I'm a fanboy for this sort of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richter Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Wow, what a mess. Way too many random ideas and conflicting instruments. The tossed-in beats were entirely too filtered for the rest of the atmosphere. And good lord too much high-end. I had a really hard time even finishing this one. The whole thing just really really didn't work for me. Yikes... well... I wouldn't want to follow 'Dragon Song' either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ella guro Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I like this one a lot. All the stuff going on between the saxes starting around 1:30 is really interesting. There's definitely much going on here that a lot of people just plain won't hear or at least not hear on the first few listens. Even at the weakest points in between there's a certain kind of lo-fi cheesy appeal (starting around 2:18, for example) that makes it work. Of course it's occasionally frustrating as usual, but this one seems to have at least a bit of a different approach that is refreshing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israfel Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 This is a compositional tour de force, no doubt about it. Like many of his other works, Sam masterfully borrows from contemporary jazz and classical musics while at the same time demonstrating an ear for accessibility. It's hearing the music of up-and-coming composers like Sam that persuaded me away from pursuing a career in music- there's just no way I can compete. You rock, Sam, keep it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubernym Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 This is a compositional tour de force, no doubt about it. Like many of his other works, Sam masterfully borrows from contemporary jazz and classical musics while at the same time demonstrating an ear for accessibility.It's hearing the music of up-and-coming composers like Sam that persuaded me away from pursuing a career in music- there's just no way I can compete. You rock, Sam, keep it up. Well said. This is incredible. I don't even know the source tune, but I don't have to to realize that this is an amazing composition. Good job, Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetherius Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 interesting stuff in here... And, in order to seem like a total ass, I'm going to waiv my right to say anything intelligent about this mix and just say this: I prefer the original. It's flippin' Sexy-ass Good God Y'all, Edwyn Starr Style, Shiznackety awesome....and therefore, better than this... But I still love you Shnubby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimFrost the Tourianist Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 What a dissonant remix it is But i like it all the same..it's Shnabubula ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I think this is one of the less-accessible tracks he's done personally. While there's not so much of the randomness and energy in this track as perhaps some of the other mixes on the site (some of the chaoticness in Hunter's Community Chest, for instance), I think it's the smooth and unnoticable transitions between the sections and general staticness of ideas (not so much musical progression as other mixes) throughout the whole track that might push peoples attention spans, especially when - as David has touched on - the ideas themselves are quite an acquired taste and tend to have a musical/theoretical leaning, rather than something that is written with the general audience in mind. Probably a hard one for people to grasp, here. I first heard this all the way back in early June, and I wouldn't say it was my favourite mix of his, probably because LESS happens than I am accustomed to, rather than more , though I appreciate this mix a lot, and I certainly can listen to it and enjoy it. I'm feeling that it's Sam's most unique OCR to date, at least. Much respect for keeping that enterprising creative voice at full throttle. Now to silently wait for the next one, whenever it comes around . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Less Ashamed Of Self Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Lots of notes. Typical delicious Shna. Make more like it please. (In regards to Solstice being beaten in 7 minutes; a video is available here if that satiates anyone's curiosity.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meiguoren Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 This is exactly why I love Shnabalabulanabana's work. It's always amazing and always, in the words of burn out dirty hippies, "out there". Shnabubula always manages to take interesting pieces and then translate then into something that I am never quite ready to listen to but am always ready to have. I must admit that I rarely string up all of his mixes and let them run. In fact I rarely ever pull just one of them up. But, like the copy of Incubus (starring William Shatner and filmed entirely in Esperanto) on my DVD shelf, I am always glad that I COULD listen to it. With this piece in particular Shna manages to take an unwilling piece from my childhood and blow it up and turn it inside out. Solstice ate my head when I was a child. It wasn't until Nintendo Power published the code for many, many little purple hats (back when the Classified Information section still looked like a manilla envelope (not to be confused with Manila, the city in the Phillipines)) that I was able to conquer the game. You want to know how anyone can beat the game in under seven minutes? I want to know how to get more than seventy seven percent of the map. Find me a video of THAT and I WILL birth your children (even though China is keeping me from even birthing a healthy stool). Bottom Line: I Heart This Mix. The theme returns to me from across the void of time and bites me in the ass. Reminding me both of my failure to conquer this game and of the dissonance that Shnabubula makes me adore to my core. I'm a poet and I know it, my feet show it and they're Longfellows. Nice work, as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 LOL, The intro bells have me thinking "I want my babyback, babayback, babyback, Chiliiiiii's, babyback ribs" . Maybe it's just me. I'm all over this lo-fi vibe. The distorted synths that sound as though they are struggling to hold themselves together, just so they can finish this last song, the mono drums that live in the background, and the delightfully dry feel of everything work so well in Sam's hands. Ahh, and the orchestra of saxes, fun fun fun. Sam, your percussion sequencing really is amazing but somehow your mixes always show so much restraint there, not allowing the percussion to overtake the all-important melody unless absolutely necessary. Here, I'm not even able to beg for more drumwork simply because of the beautiful control that the saxes and synths exercise over both the rhythm and the melody. Yada, yada, praise, praise. No surprise that this mix is more of your usual great stuff. Congrats on the DP man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monobrow Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Ya know, I don't know. There are parts of this song where I am reminded of this one Bjork song with saxaphones playing the same notes over and over. (I love the song, but I can't remember the name) Although, this goes way past that. I do like the drums and the low low geetar. Even if the saxaphones are all over the place, the beat is still pretty easy to follow, as well as the progression. I think my favorite part is 2:15-3:15 though. I don't know if I could listen to something like this on a regular basis, but if I'm ever feeling mellow yet chaotic/confused...yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrkSummoner Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 This is one of those like it or hate it type songs. I find myself some place in the middle. I enjoy the original but the remix gives it a new spin. It is hard to choose which one I enjoy better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHz Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 You want to know how anyone can beat the game in under seven minutes? I want to know how to get more than seventy seven percent of the map. Find me a video of THAT and I WILL birth your children (even though China is keeping me from even birthing a healthy stool). Check http://speeddemosarchive.com/Solstice.html; it has a 100% room run in fifteen minutes. Also, this remix kicks my face in. In a good way. The only complaint I have is that of the sax sound, but that's minor because the interplay is awesome enough to make me forget about it. And the synths are rad. If it weren't for the crippling nostalgia I have for The Guardian Legend, this might be my favorite Shna mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhsu Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I've always thought sax is an all-or-nothing thing...either get a live player, or forget about it. This mix, unfortunately, is no exception. A synth or even some sort of EP would been much less hard on the ears. But after :57, all is forgiven. Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 OH MY FU- YES!! This is amazing. New favorite remix, right the fuck here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The13thAce Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Very unique song, reminds me alot of the "Saturn Valley" song from earthbound. very bizzare but i did enjoy it, i can definately see it going great as background music for a somewhat hectic area of a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I said it in Rare Mineral Addict and I'll say it here, Shna, I heart this mix. It's actually kind of funny because I owned Solstice for the longest time. EVERY time I decided to play it, I'd pop it in and twenty minutes later I'd slam the controller down, yank the game out and scream "FUCK THIS GAME!" However, as much as I hated the game, the music would stick in my head for hours. I love it. It sounds so different from all the other NES music out there. In fact, now that I have it, I wonder why it took so long for a remix from Solstice to come out. I'm glad there finally is one and ten times gladder that it's from Shna. Ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Faia Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I did a double-take when I saw this. Someone did a remix for the Solstice theme? Kick ass. Actually, I was even more pleasantly surprised when I heard the remix, because it is outstanding. I am definitely liking this. I know some friends will get a kick out of it. Nice work. Check http://speeddemosarchive.com/Solstice.html; it has a 100% room run in fifteen minutes. Heh. That's my run. I also did a pure speed one in 6:42, but there's no video for that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meiguoren Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Your run is innapropriate. That is the best word for it. Hours of my life dedicated to that game and all I managed to find was seventy some percent. Secret rooms under spikes? Insane-O leaps and credit collections? No death? FIFTEEN MINUTES? Very nice, sir. I have finally seen every room in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playingtokrush Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 You want to know how anyone can beat the game in under seven minutes? I want to know how to get more than seventy seven percent of the map. Find me a video of THAT and I WILL birth your children (even though China is keeping me from even birthing a healthy stool). Check http://speeddemosarchive.com/Solstice.html; it has a 100% room run in fifteen minutes. Jesus Fucking Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBogus Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I've tried listening to this many times, and it just doesn't jive in my head. I'm sure there are boatloads of structural nuances I'm missing, but this is one of Shna's mixes that is too inaccessible for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 You want to know how anyone can beat the game in under seven minutes? I want to know how to get more than seventy seven percent of the map. Find me a video of THAT and I WILL birth your children (even though China is keeping me from even birthing a healthy stool). Check http://speeddemosarchive.com/Solstice.html; it has a 100% room run in fifteen minutes. Yeah, I just watched Lucid's speed run independent of this, and all I could think was "What the hell is going on with this game?" The gameplay never made any sense the whole way through. But yeah, the mix is still good, but be sure to check out the source material. Personally, I was already open-minded to this without it. But for a lot of n00bs like MrBogus above it's just like EarthBound where, if you've never heard the source material, some of the weirder mixes apparently sound like dogshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBogus Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 n00bs like MrBogus Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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