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It's time for BadAss to return!

David L. Puga and I return to direct BadAss: Paragons and Renegades (title may change). But this isn't your "regular" BadAss; this time the heroes get the spotlight! From the grittiest anti-heroes to the most determined heroes, it's time for the protagonists to show us what they've got! The album itself will have genre restrictions like previous BadAss albums, but with a twist: there's one 'Paragons' disc (mainly directed by me) and one 'Renegades' disc (mainly directed by David), each with a different genre. So let's see who wins while still being a BadAss doing it!

The Paragon disc is about adventure, determination and courage. Think of the Chrono Trigger theme, "Flameheart"by Two Steps From Hell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQMpRWuT6hk), and the 'X-Training' theme from X-Men First Class (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUCA6w0Zz-k) but it is certainly not limited by orchestral. Rock themes like the 80s/90s cartoons and shows (Biker Mice from Mars, Power Rangers or Airwolf) are also good examples and electronic music is certainly appreciated as well! Base line: getting you pumped up and ready for adventure! Make sure to send me an example of the vibe you're going for to check if it fits the album!

The Renegade disc is more "regular" BadAss style, especially BadAss II. In other words, not the big epic or symphonic rock from BadAss 3 (which is perhaps better suited for the Paragon disc), but raw and gritty is the name of the game and rock and dark electronic music will be the go-to style here. We want to show the world that protagonists can be at least as BadAss as the bosses, so let their inner darkness out on this side of the album! For references (and awesome music), check out BadAss 2. Be sure to check in with David if you want to make a mix for this disc!

More details will follow, but we're aiming for about 20 tracks (balanced between the discs) and we want to complete this in about a year (BadAss 3 took 14 months to be sent to eval, so let's see if we can do it in 12 this time around!). And suffice to say, only (anti-)hero themes are eligible this time around! Are you going to be part of the next BadAss album? Let's see if you've got what it takes!

 

Staff:

Pavos - director (mainly Paragon)
David L. Puga (The Joker) - director (mainly Renegade)
timaeus222 - assistant director
Chernabogue - assistant director 

 

Tracklist (15):

Light red (pink) / Light blue: WIP
Red / Blue: Substantial WIP (arrangement ~90% complete)
Dark red / Dark Blue: Finished but umastered
Bold and Dark: BadAss

 

Paragon (6):

David L. Puga feat. Mak Eightman: And Hell Followed Him (Death - Darksiders II)
HoBoKa feat. Mak Eightman: Simon Belmont (Super Castlevania IV) - update required 16-11-2019
pu_freak: Ezio (Assassins Creed II) - update required 28-10-2019
Sam Dillard: Crono (Chrono Trigger) - update required 10-10-2019
RebeccaETripp: Cecil (Final Fantasy IV) - update required 04-12-2019

MkVaff: Fi (The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword) - update required 18-11-2019

Renegade (9):

heymagurany: Madeline (Celeste) - update required 21-10-2019
Garpocalypse: Toejam (Toejam N Earl) - update required 01-11-2019
Mak Eightman: Firebrand (Gargoyle's Quest) - update required 02-11-2019
Gunderslam: Geralt of Rivia (The Witcher III) - update required 16-10-2019

Steele: Nero (Devil May Cry 5) - update required 30-09-2019
bLiNd: Duke Nukem (Duke Nukem 3D - update required 19-08-2019
fxsnowy: Auron (Final Fantasy X) - update required 30-09-2019
SkyRiderX: Garrus (Mass effect) - update required 06-11-2019
Clem: Caleb (Blood) - update required 29-10-2019

 

-FAQ:

What tracks can I pick as a source?
Tracks that are indicative of a hero/protagonist (we've added a list of suggestions below). Please discuss your source with the project staff!

Are all genres allowed?
No, please look at the info above which genres are allowed. In short, the Paragon disc allows heroic and adventurous genres while the Renegades disc allows raw and gritty genres.

What is the project deadline?
It's not yet set in stone, but expect the WIP cut-off date (only finished arrangements WIPs allowed after that point) around September and the final cut-off date at the end of the year.

What are the WIP deadlines?
Everybody has their own deadlines. We expect an update every month (established mixers get two months). If you miss one without a good reason, you're off the official project tracklist. You can get back on it if you send a new version of course, but we won't delay the release of the album if we don't hear from you.

How can I claim a track?
Send us a WIP (through Dropbox or Google Drive for instance, but always in a PM) and if we like it, you're in! Just be sure to send us updates every month, otherwise someone else will be able to take your source.

Do you have private project forums?
Yes we do, you'll get invited if we approve of your first WIP.

What quality are you going for?
OCR quality - not only do we need to pass eval, but BadAss 3 had 60% (12 of the 20 tracks) approved for the front page. So let's see if we can do even better! In any case, expect a high bar and a lot of feedback from us.

Do you have some examples of (Anti)hero themes?
We sure do! Here's a helpful list of examples:

Hero:
Mario - Super Mario Theme
Luigi - Dark Hallways
Samus Aran - Super Metroid Theme
Princess Zelda/Sheik - Zelda’s LullabySheik's Theme
Turok - Turok 2 River of SoulsTurok 3 Menu Theme
Snake - Old Snake
Donkey Kong - Donkey Kong Country Theme, DK Rap
Master Chief - Halo theme
Jade - Ballad of Hyllis
Shepard - Suicide RunAn End Once and for All
Ryu - Ryus Theme
Sonic - Sonic 3 Intro , It Doesn't Matter
Earthworm Jim - Earthworm Jim Theme
Frog - Frog's Theme

Anti-hero:
Dante - Lock and Load
Jackie Estacado - The Darkness Overture
Max Payne - Max Payne Theme
Big Boss - Big Boss Returns
Conker - Windy & Co.
Wander - Revived Power
Lara Croft - Tomb Raider Theme
Wario - Wario Land Theme

Zero - Zero Theme
Meta Knight - Meta Knight's Theme
Marcus Fenix - Gears Theme
Knuckles - Knuckles Theme
Venom - Maximum Carnage Theme, Separation Anxiety Theme

Edited by Pavos

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11 hours ago, AngelCityOutlaw said:

Very interesting concept this time around!

So, have you already decided which disc you want to be a part of? ;)

In other news: @timaeus222 and @Chernabogue will be joining again as assistant directors! Welcome back guys!

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15 minutes ago, pu_freak said:

So, have you already decided which disc you want to be a part of? ;)

In other news: @timaeus222 and @Chernabogue will be joining again as assistant directors! Welcome back guys!

Ha! I didn't know I was invited. Though I do have some orchestral ideas that would probably work for your Paragon side. I was actually messing around with a game hero's theme in Reaper the other day. Maybe I can send it your way once I develop it some more. See what you think

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That sounds good! It's always good to have more BadAss regulars back on the team ;)

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Oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this looks interesting.
Consider me in. 

Edit: I'm also taking the Zelda main theme, intend it to go in Paragons.
Might combine overworld themes from various games, not sure yet

Do we need to send one of you a demo first?

Edit Edit: Also will there be a Discord?

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I'll throw in for this. I've been looking for an opportunity to work on an album track! I have an idea for a rock version of the SR388 Surface theme from Metroid II that I think will work.

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Isn't the whole point of this album to pick (main) character themes rather than area themes? Or am I misunderstanding?

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I'd say you can go with an area theme if it's indicative of a hero. I'd still want the main hero theme somewhere in it, so, maybe like a combo. Like, for instance, Turok 2 has a main theme, but you could do port of Adia pretty easy since it references the main theme.

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6 hours ago, TheChargingRhino said:

Oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this looks interesting.
Consider me in. 

Edit: I'm also taking the Zelda main theme, intend it to go in Paragons.
Might combine overworld themes from various games, not sure yet

Do we need to send one of you a demo first?

Edit Edit: Also will there be a Discord?

Yeah show us a demo of your genre/style (or an example from another song you intend to mimic) to make sure if its eligible! And there won't be a discord, but we do have our own project forums.

As for @heymagurany's question: like David (The Joker) said, an area theme is acceptable as long as it's closely linked to a certain hero (think Zelda overworld theme). A Metroid area theme does not follow this, however, so the SR388 Surface theme is not eligible for this album. Like I posted in the OP (in bold) we're shooting for (anti)hero themes!

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 There is no Anti hero, that's just wordplay. The Hero's theme is the main point we're sticking to here, whether they be superheroic or an anti hero doesn't matter so much as that they're the main protagonist. Any hero theme, whether it be the main theme to a series (Ezio's Family from Assassin's Creed), a specific character's theme from a game (Shieks Theme from Ocarina of Time, though Zelda's Lullaby would work), or a level theme that references the main theme (The Guardian's Theme from Darksiders 2 since it's just a rearrangement of the main titles).

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I believe I have my source list picked out; timing of each source shall vary once I complete the first demo
I have started on the piece, it is currently (in FL time) 3:26:75 in length (minutes, seconds, multi seconds)

Source list (Shall be updated with times as I complete each section) - All times shall be in FL time
All sources, unless otherwise marked, are in their original key

0:00 - 0:07:38 - original, lead into 
0:07:38 - 1:10:15 - Twilight Princess title theme (if you want to hear this, check out my skyrim/zelda mix thread over in Post your remixes- timing of notes have been corrected for this piece)
1:10:15 - 1:24:92 - lead into Ballad of the Goddess
1:24:92 - 1:47:07 - Ballad of the Goddess (cameo...?) (Skyward Sword)
1:47:07 - 2:27:67 - Dark World (in the key of D) (Part A) (A Link to the Past)
2:27:67- 3:04:61 - lead into The Great Sea/Hyrule Field (The Wind Waker) (Ocarina of Time)
3:04:61 - 3:26:75 - The Great Sea (intro/part A of first half) (Wind Waker) 
3:26:75 - 4:09:03 - Hyrule Field (ending) (Ocarina of Time)
Directly dives into 
4:09:03 - 4:22:78 - Hyrule Field A (Twilight Princess)
4:22:78 - 4:43:37 - Overworld (Zelda main theme) (in the key of B ) 
4:43:37  - 5:00:52 - Dark World (Part B ) (A Link to the Past)
(more might be added later)

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15 hours ago, HoboKa said:

Does...Simon Belmont's theme from CV4 count??  I could do that one pretty well.  Probably. 

Yeah it sure does! Are you going for the Paragon or Renegade disc?

6 hours ago, TheChargingRhino said:

I believe I have my source list picked out; timing of each source shall vary once I complete the first demo
I have started on the piece, it is currently (in FL time) 1:21:22 in length (minutes, seconds, multi seconds)

Source list (Shall be updated with times as I complete each section) - All times shall be in FL time

0:00 - 0:07:38 - original, lead into to...
0:07:38 - 1:10:15 - Twilight Princess title theme (if you want to hear this, check out my skyrim/zelda mix thread over in Post your remixes- timing of notes have been corrected for this piece)
1:10:15 - 1:21:22 - lead into Ballad of the Goddess
lead into - Dark World 
lead into - The Great Sea/Hyrule Field (Ocarina of Time)
lead into - Hyrule Field/Overworld (Twilight Princess/Zelda main theme)
lead into - original outro? 

Sounds good and the genre you have in mind sound good too! Can't wait to receive a first WIP from you so we can officially welcome you to the album! 

 

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Would "Riku Theme" (Kingdom Hearts 2)  be okay. He's either an antihero or a hero with dark powers depending on the game and/or who you ask. He's certainly a Badass and one of the protagonist's biggest allies and friends. I've always been fond of the character. I feel his theme is real dramatic and would be perfect for an album like this. 

I'd probably do it in my version of a Dark Psytrance style with maybe some slight dubstep influences. I won't have a demo ready for a while though ...

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9 minutes ago, The Joker said:

I'd say Riku fits the hero designation!

 And Any Belmont counts in my opinion!

Hi Joker! I posted a source list/times of each source above, updating it as I complete each section, might actually get a demo done tonight. 
of course it won't be the final final product but it's gonna be basically what eventually I have in mind.
Only problem is instrument levels and plugins....
But I guess those can be fixed later. 

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