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LuketheXjesse
08-10-2009, 07:29 PM
check this shizz out dawg

http://dod.vgmix.com/past/jun08/05-Snappleman-FF7-Manning-DoD.mp3

hear that old school organ used through most of the beginning of the song?

i'd really like to have something like that - it would sound very good in my upcoming Freshly Baked Remixer Challenge :)

know any free alternatives?

Yoozer
08-10-2009, 09:05 PM
That's a tonehweel organ with a good deal of distortion over it.

http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=37 or http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=24 if it can be "really really cheap". It is - because NI B4 costs $199.

It's the type of distortion that does the trick, so a plain stompbox plugin may not do the trick.

LuketheXjesse
08-10-2009, 11:01 PM
haven't tried it out yet, but thanks, this really helps :D

Kanthos
08-11-2009, 12:26 AM
A lot of the great rock organ players from the 60s and 70s who used distorted sounds would often get them by playing through guitar amps; I don't know of anyone who actively used pedals for that. I get a good distorted organ sound out of my Nord Stage by using the built-in Fender Twin amp sim with a fair bit of gain, plus some of the gain from the Leslie speaker. In terms of those two plugins, play with the overdrive section and if you need to, warm up the sound with a guitar amp plugin, maybe something from SimuAnalog.

Meteo Xavier
08-11-2009, 12:51 AM
I have NI B4 and frankly it sucks quite a bit. None of the organs sound very good and its pretty buggy.

Now, on topic, I want to find an organ that gives me that awesome, prog cutting lead. I kind have one, but its better for layering than leads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDO7r2kYlnM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVVS4hm05aw - starting at 1:08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1kL4UlElFk&feature=related


What kind of settings do I need or what should I look for?

Kanthos
08-11-2009, 01:25 AM
I've used NI B4-II and was quite happy with it, although I didn't like all the presets. I had no troubles with it though.

For leads, going with a Keith Emerson sound never fails. Use Vibrato on C1, upper drawbars set to 888000000, percussion is On/Soft/Fast/Third, rotor speed set to *stop* (or turned off; you don't want the slight swirl that comes with the speed on low here). Use a bit of drive, not enough to really distort the notes but enough to bring them out. You'll end up with something similar to 5:34 of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v4FkWyHwyU) - actually, these settings nail their studio version of Hoedown right on.

Skummel Maske
08-11-2009, 08:53 AM
When I tested the demo of B4, I got a very Deep Purple-ish (and very nice overall) lead out of it by running it through Guitar Rig. I guess you do need some good effect plugins for it to sound right though. A simple DS-1 emulator might not do the trick.

LuketheXjesse
08-11-2009, 09:10 PM
i can't make these appear in the VST browser thing for some reason.

which means i can't use these

:(

Skummel Maske
08-12-2009, 12:43 PM
Are you sure you put them in the right folder? And if you had the program open, rescanned the library or just restarted it?

Kanthos
08-12-2009, 12:44 PM
The DLLs for those VSTs are in locations that your DAW knows to search?

LuketheXjesse
08-14-2009, 03:04 AM
yes and yes

It doesn't matter though, because I found another wheel organ called Organaut (http://knobster.org/plugins/en/organaut.html), which pretty much did the job for me. I ran it though my amp sim, Pod Farm, and it works like a charm. I might need to work on the tone a little bit more, but it's fine for now. Thanks for your help, guys :)

HoboKa
08-14-2009, 04:19 AM
oh man that's a real awesome vst there, DLing