djpretzel Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinewav Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Oooooh man. This is sick. The lead guitar and the keys redefine what sexy sounds like. I can't think of a bad thing to say about this. EDIT: Also, LOL @ DJP's description... He's also a dad, a great musician, and an all-around premuim person. He also invented the hovercraft and was the first man to scale K2 in under 45 minutes. He grows his own bacon. For all we know. It's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Oak Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 It was a very good piece, and I didn't notice anything that didn't sound right. As I've said before, I'm no music major, so I can't get into details about what did and didn't work. But hey, I've always believed that regular folk should judge things as much as the experts. At any rate, I didn't notice it being too original, but I'm also not as familiar with the source music. It was definitely a good listen, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anosou Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Worth all the headache in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monobrow Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 So glad this was posted... I remember being all peeved about the rejection back in the day... debating source and time usage, etc. in #ocremix. Glad you guys posted it... I really heard Cyan all over this. Anyway about the mix, just nice writing, I don't think the solo was too long, the song didn't feel long at all... It was filling and just right. Guitar and bass were just stellar. The mixing is great and also I am wtf surprised that Sam ended up somehow being involved. The real playing he added is also great. GREAT GREAT WORK GUSY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halc Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 omg awesome remix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumUltimA Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 awesome job, pud! Really great work, as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final Hero Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Great mix, overall. I would've liked to hear a bit more of Cyan in there, but I felt that what there was of him in there was very well-placed and tasteful. Maybe a touch on the long side, but that may've just been because I kept expecting to hear a bit more of Cyan. Other than that, great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.B. Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Most drama in a judge thread ever? Best remix title ever? I cheered when I saw this in the to-be-posted queue. The 'sauce version was kickass, and the retouched version is even better. Not quite digging the synth that's been highlighted at one point early on... chalk it up to resistance to change. Cyan is hands-down my favorite track from FF6, but this remix takes the idea and charts its own course. And this is by no means unwelcome. The source is fully represented and the remix kicks. Surprisingly to me, in spite of the huge sylistic changes, only nostalgia is preventing me from saying this is even more gut-wrenching than the original (3:38 on, esp 4:02-4:08 = yessssssss). There's a little (positive) character-attribution bias for ya. For what this remix was gunning for, it reached in spades. Divergent throughout, yet building throughout. And, of course, some sweet picking (and keyboarding!) to boot. The world needs more bass players. It's always awesome to hear a good bass line (and bass lead!). Keep remixing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 this is incredible. can we get some more like this on the site? also, love the piccardy third at the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ascher-Weiss Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 great to see you posted here finally Tony! To clarify, the write-up quotes larry saying "He also recruited Shnabubula to add some cool original comping wankery on top of some of the mellower sections. Tony mentioned that Sam cooked up his stuff in a matter of hours after offering to do it, so definitely props to Sam for some nice additions that further fleshed out the arrangement" This is either completely inaccurate or just a really odd description of what actually took place. Tony just removed all of the sequenced rhodes parts from his song and replaced them with me playing live. That was the extent of my contribution. Anyway, great first mix, I can't wait to see more of your formidable catalog show up here! EDIT: just to be clear, I appreciate the acknowledgement, I just wanted to make sure people know that I really had very little to do with this song. I was like an instrument in Tony's arsenal rather than a full-on collaborator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordBreaker Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Definitely a cleaned up version of the DoD entry. Prince of Darkness is just one of those people you MUST listen to when it comes to DoD, people. I'm glad the judges had a rough time passing this, 'cause it's worth thinking about the future when you stumble upon remixes as cool as this one and reject them. Anyway, groovy stuff, PoD. Your playing is amazing. An unexpected reinterpretation of Cyan's theme. I absolutely cannot wait until OCR gets gems such as "Sonic Gargles With Golden Marbles" and "Vestigial Fusion Factory". If those get rejected, then I'll be speechless. No offence or anything, but passing Zelda Heineken over those tracks? That'll be a sad day for me. Congrats on debuting in OCR, man. Can't wait for more of your tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictusempra Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 This song is simply spectacular, and while I understand djp's extreme argument against liberal arrangement becoming something other than an arrangement, I cannot imagine how it applies here. It's disappointing to see the judges get so hung up on very technical rules, when in the end, we're all just coming here to listen to good VGM arrangements and this is... well, this is definitely that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 To clarify, the write-up quotes larry saying "He also recruited Shnabubula to add some cool original comping wankery on top of some of the mellower sections. Tony mentioned that Sam cooked up his stuff in a matter of hours after offering to do it, so definitely props to Sam for some nice additions that further fleshed out the arrangement"This is either completely inaccurate or just a really odd description of what actually took place. Tony just removed all of the sequenced rhodes parts from his song and replaced them with me playing live. That was the extent of my contribution. That's all Tony fault; I'll never ask him anything on IRC again! In other words, kik Tony. (i.e. not a big deal, but I recall that's what he said) No offence or anything, but passing Zelda Heineken over those tracks? That'll be a sad day for me. That's a pretty stupid thing to say. It's disappointing to see the judges get so hung up on very technical rules, when in the end, we're all just coming here to listen to good VGM arrangements Exactly, the listeners generally couldn't care less about the site's guidelines or purpose as long as we posted enjoyable tracks. That underscores why it's good for the panel to scrutinize tracks; the fans generally don't. Some very enjoyable tracks just end up being outside the scope of the site. We almost passed Villainelle's Zelda 64 mix when it actually had barely anything to do with the source tune it was supposed to be arranging, until we took a closer look. A lot of people would have given it the benefit of the doubt. If we posted Hyadain's , we'd have lots of people in favor of that too, and I can't forget about the debate I had about removing Zelda 64 'Ocarina Boogie'. I r badmen's on this stuff. If it ends up that mixes are on the borderline like this one in terms of actually using the VGM, even though Joe Blow wouldn't care as long as the production was awesome, those are exactly the situations the Js will be checking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordBreaker Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 That's a pretty stupid thing to say. That's your opinion, dude. We'll just have to agree to disagree. MOAR Prince of Darkness tracks in OCR, please! I want to start a movement here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 That's your opinion, dude. We'll just have to agree to disagree. No, not really. Comparing the two tracks is apples and oranges. There's also no need to shit on a track just because you like another track. That's like the prophet of mephisto needlessly shitting on Armcannon a few days ago just because he loved Powerglove. Don't get into that stuff, it's pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZealPath Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Well this was definitely one of those "listen to it once then come comment on it cause it was so cool!" type of mixes. Cyanide is one of my favorite mixes, so I don't think it's any surprise that another guitar-wielding Cyan mix did the trick for me again. This time it has a lot of other elements too which I definitely enjoyed as well, but there's no getting around the driving force of the guitar. Personally I can't say I struggled with finding the source, maybe it's just because I'm a hardcore FF guy who played FF6 over and over back in the day, but this felt like any other mix to me as far as the source mostly being there, and occasionally dropping off for some solo work (which is usually a big part of the fun with these mixes), but still, not getting too lost, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceansAndrew Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Epic stuff- PoD is one bad mother.. *shut yo mouth* Just talkin' bout PoD... Adding Sam's soloin makes it even more awesome, great work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbynob Littlun Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 This rendition brought to mind a sort of... Detective Cyan image. In fact, I was compelled to sketch such an image! Leather cuirass-trenchcoat hybrid + chin that can cut glass = Yes! EDIT: In regards to the ongoing debate... this actually sounds more like a ReMix of the second half of Cyanide, than of the Cyan theme itself. This probably isn't really the case, but if it were, I figure ReMixes of Remixes would certainly be within OCR's scope. Or do we need to put up an OCRemixRemix site? ; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I remember hearing this track back when it was up on DoD - what a great rendition of Cyan's theme! And for those of you looking for more PoD on OCR - he has a great track on the DKC 2 project (based on tough source material too!). If you want more of him in general, check out his YouTube videos or his DoD stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintoreedwine Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 This mix is great! There's always room for a well done jazzy mix on my playlist . I am a huge fan of FF VI, but don't remember this particular tune very well. It doesn't matter, though, because this piece easily stands on its own . My playlist of awesome songs thanks you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platonist Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 great work! new version with Shnabubula really gives it a new light! compared to the old one ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonAvenger Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I think this track is fantastic. Wonderful interpretation of the source, and just awesome to listen to. The judges decision thread was a pretty interesting read, and I would be curious to dig up the old version to hear what they were talking about. I know in my position this would have been an easy yes. Great work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosPlayer Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 :puppyeyes: Hands down. Sadest music in game has become "listinable" that doesn't sound negative but more of a positive point of view making it the best sound track arranged ever for ff6. Guitar... ALL THE DAMN WAY. Absolutely amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Penwald Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I don't know, but I just cannot get into this remix. The guitar and the jazzy rest are very nice if looked at seperately, but for me, they just don't get along too well. The guitar is way too much in the foreground, drowing out the awesome, laid-back jazz. Not a bad remix by any stretch of the imagination; simply not my cup of tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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