glasfen Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 It's been a while... VG Opinion Poll #13 Prior to finding OCR, I have to admit that the extent of musical styles which I enjoyed was somewhat limited. I think it was the melding of familiar themes with different genres, some new to me, which has broadened my auditory palette. For example, I believe the only reasons I now appreciate electronic music are OCR and the Appleseed soundtrack (which I encountered at about the same time). In addition to expanding my musical preferences, I've also learned a lot about music from OCR: structure, improvisation, arrangement, etc. So, quite simply, has OCR taught you anything? a. Yes, indeed. b. Maybe... b. Nope. Vote and be heard. Have a safe and fun holiday weekend, especially those of you who are Stateside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salluz Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 A. Yes I've heard more input from musicians on OCR than in the mainstream, sadly. Commercialism is pretty low on the skill scale, depending on what, specifically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Penwald Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 a. And that's true for the remixes as well as the stuff that was posted in the many music threads in Unmod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumUltimA Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 A. yes. Everything I know about the technological side of music I have learned via ocr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronyn Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 A. yes. Everything I know about the technological side of music I have learned via ocr. a. Yes, indeed. More than f@#$ing college even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike911 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 A. I had quit band in middle school for two years, was forgetting how to read sheet music, and forgot how to play an instrument. I knew next to nothing about making music when I found OCR while in the middle of high school 8-ish years ago. Thought the idea of remixing my own favorite game tracks was a cool idea, so I taught myself a few programs after spelunking the OCR Forums. I'm no expert or anything, but OCR has been my central music hub. Not only in regards to production, but to interesting genres and artists I wasn't hip to. The community is responsible for my interest in music as well as showing me new ways to create (and refine) my music... ...which is why I stick around. haha. EDIT: I also seem to get good answers from people no matter how silly, strange, or noobish my questions are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillRock Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 YES Or A. if your picky I've learnt a shit load about music at ocr, specifically with production and sound design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 A. I've always thought up random musical ideas in my head at times, but was far too lazy to execute them (and I forget them after five minutes ). Then I start browsing OCR. I hear about Reaper and FruityLoops. Download them both. Too lazy to learn how to use them. I find a Reaper tutorial in the tutorials forum. I read it. Been learning more and more each day since. I hope to be a great Metal/Rock remixer soon also this Everything I know about the technological side of music I have learned via ocr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anosou Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Yes. Very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 C. nope, not in the least it probably doesn't help that I'm incapable of supplying a decent recording of either my violin playing or my singing edit: reading the desciption again, I'll have to change that to B. maybe musically, it hasn't done a thing for me, but my musical preferences have broadened somewhat since I first came to OCR, like the OP himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Yes, definitely. Being around and working with so many people who take music very seriously has taught me techniques I might not have been exposed to otherwise, broadened my musical understanding, encouraged me to actually practice (as opposed to just banging on things for fun), encouraged me to actually finish songs that I start (instead of just banging on things for fun then clicking "no, don't save"), and made me a little more humble. No, I don't rock as much as I thought I did...but with a little practice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpretzel Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 My current answer is C: Both. Why? Well, hell yeah, it's helped me massively. Listen to my older stuff, then listen to my newer stuff, I'll say no more. NOWADAYS, though, between posting mixes, coordinating events, and developing the site itself, I hardly get to make any music. It sucks. I've got like 12 WIPs from different games, in different genres, and I haven't been able to make progress on any of them lately. Suckage. With any luck, some of these will come out late this year or early next, after we're done with our big site development phase. I really miss making music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozovian Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 lol @ lack of option C, wtg glasfen A. No doubt. btw, I want more pretzel music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Less Ashamed Of Self Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 A. Glad to see so many A's here too. Just entering in to PRC's a fair bit back in the day (I should really do that again) was enough to challenge me to make a bunch of unique tracks which taught me plenty about different genres and how they're composed. ie: -what makes some rap more enjoyable/less cliche than other rap. -how to fake guitar, how not to fake guitar... -my range/abilities in general -how to annoy people with sounds ALSO; Doug, what the hell is with the bloom in your headshot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumUltimA Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 A.Glad to see so many A's here too. Just entering in to PRC's a fair bit back in the day (I should really do that again) was enough to challenge me to make a bunch of unique tracks which taught me plenty about different genres and how they're composed. ie: -what makes some rap more enjoyable/less cliche than other rap. -how to fake guitar, how not to fake guitar... -my range/abilities in general -how to annoy people with sounds ALSO; Doug, what the hell is with the bloom in your headshot? just trying to make it look like it's straight out of a korean love drama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skummel Maske Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 a. Yes, indeed. Really, I've learned so much from feedback here, both on my own work and others'. Not to mention the guides and tutorials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salluz Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 -what makes some rap more enjoyable/less cliche than other rap. Lyrics (subject, skill, depth, meaning, symbolism, uniqueness) * rhythm * (notation/orchestration (including vocals, especially rap-singing, and more especially if it's actual singing) *style aka "swag") * (arrangement = purpose + abstraction) = arrangement(x) = duration) * uniqueness = quality That's the musical part. The rest are gimmicks, which the media uses to promote certain styles, sometimes making others less cliche. It's all about profit and easy ways to do it; more business-oriented and deceitful than real. Why not be real and fervent in business? It takes more energy; something that only a lover of art would or could contribute. how to fake guitar, how not to fake guitar... Dynamics of the sound of the guitar (+/-/0) * rhythm (impossible techniques and speeds make the guitar sound either fake or like a unison of multiple players in one band, possibly doing it wrong) * octaves/chords/notation suitable to a guitar (a million bass notes w/ a million high notes will not reciprocate properly, nor will it sound natural, even if there are a million people playing; the mathematics must work in law of reciprocity) * physics of guitar playing (strums, power chords, regular chords, solo strings, bass-acoustic-electric relationships) * quality of sound (bit rate/sample rate/interpolation/etc) [+/*( more if necessary or applicable)] = overall quality and actual effect, since realism plays a role, though the electronic and digital can enhance that nature. my range/abilities in generalOnly you know this. We all can make calculations of limitations for ourselves and find ways to raise those limits, which of course, have a given maximum that we may not know.how to annoy people with soundsIt's wonderful to know what NOT to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nase Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Anything that you choose to listen to repeatedly and over a longer timespan must be inspiring in some way, and anything that's inspiring musically probably helps you as a musician. One might claim that his own inspiration is hermetically sealed from the stuff he listens to, but one would probably be wrong It's really impossible to track all the subtle nuances in your work that were inspired by another tune or dozens of them. Well, actually, I don't really know if OCR has literally 'helped' me become a better musician, but it definitely made me become a different musician in one way or another. It introduced me to some deep, intricate and tremendously fun music of the kind I'd never heard before, from people like Mazedude, Protricity, Shnabubula, and others. There's no way that this kind of exposure didn't change my music at least in some way, and sometimes I can hear it explicitly. So yeah, I think any musician on here that picks 'B - not at all' would possibly have to change his mind if he really thinks it through. Technical advancement, dealing with feedback and all the other stuff are a different story though, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonAvenger Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 A. Oh heck yes. I wouldn't be singing if it weren't for OCR. More than that, I wouldn't have really gotten into arranging lyrics/melodies at all. Plus, OCR keeps music FUN for me, which is the biggest thing I can say about this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerrax Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 A for sure. There is so much that I have learned from OCR I don't think I could name it all here without this turning into a tl;dr. Seriously, this site has been a lifeline for the last 4+ years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gario Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Umm... how many people didn't chose A? By the way... A - My skills in production has skyrocketed since I've become a member. Now, whether that's because it has encouraged me to remix more, thus forcing me to use my programs more and such or from the helpful advice on my mixes... I think it's a nice mix of both things happening . Yeah, I'd say this site has helped quite a bit, either way . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon Odyssey Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 A. otherwise I probably wouldn't be in college for music composition (well, maybe without a big list of arrangements for ensembles to perform). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 not really, no it's what gave me musical aspirations in the first place but otherwise hasn't really helped me at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Mokram Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 A - Yes OCR has helped me a great deal, musically of course, but also on a more personal level. I've learned more about the music making process in 3-4 months, than ever before. And I'm happy to create a piece for a project, or to enter a compo and share with others. Having fun while making music is something that I had lost somewhere along the way. So yes, I definitely have to thank OCremix, and by extention ThaSauce & the remixing community for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Taucer Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 A: ABSOLUTELY As I was just starting, my goal was always to get my production skills up to the point where my stuff could be accepted on OCR. I've also gotten lots of help on the production side from other OCR-goers -- zircon and sixto being the main ones, but far from the only ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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