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I haven't worried much about this up until now, when it blocked me from loading up the newest mixpost... Here's some screenshots:

http://www.abadoss.net/photos/OCR-Error1.jpg

http://www.abadoss.net/photos/OCR-Error2.jpg

http://www.abadoss.net/photos/OCR-Error3.jpg

{WinXP, IE8}

If you'll notice, there's a white box that is covering a part of the page. I think it's related to the YouTube embedding. If you look on the second and third screenshot, the position of the box changes depending on whether I have the YouTube previous expanded. Plus, the box didn't appear on the front page until after the YouTube clip was no longer there. Is this a quick fix?

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Is Metal Monkey from Secret of Monkey Island (the mix page and review thread's 1st post say so) or Escape from Monkey Island (like the review thread's overt title and the file name in the latest torrent)? I see the latter in OCR's database, but no listed mixes.

If you read Ryan's sub letter in the judging decision, it's representing Escape. There are a handful of game reassignments we still need to make live on the site to reflect corrections I've made for the torrents, but we'll get everything updated soon.

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What about ReMixes from games that have been released on several consoles? For example, http://ocremix.org/game/624/fallout-3-xb360 lists no remixes, but http://ocremix.org/game/623/fallout-3-ps3 and http://ocremix.org/game/622/fallout-3-win do. Is this just an oversight?

You say game assignment can only go to one game, and in the case of the only Fallout 3 ReMix on the site (http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR02077/), it's assigned to the PS3 version, but apparently, 2 games (database-wise), both the Windows and the PS3 versions of Fallout 3 list ORC02077 as being ReMixes of them (which totally makes sense other than that the Xbox version doesn't list that same ReMix). So what's stopping both Escape and Secret from listing OCR00670 (even if the ReMix itself only lists Escape)? There are several ReMixes that use sources from several different games and only list one game, but the game pages themselves all list that same ReMix (http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR02496/ being one example).

EDIT: I noticed the Windows version's list of songs refers to songs actually listed as being songs from the PS3 soundtrack. I am assuming, therefore, that the reason that the Xbox version doesn't list the ReMix is because it doesn't list the songs, either (which it should). Unless the song ReMixed in OCR00670 is identically the same in both the Monkey Island games, it wouldn't make sense to have either game refer to a song that's listed as being part of the other game, or you'd have to crosscheck every time a ReMix is posted whether the song it is a ReMix of exists in another game (take the Zelda overworld theme. Good lord). So... I guess it makes sense to do things the way you're doing them now (besides OCR02077 not being listed under the Xbox version of the game, that is, but again, I'm guessing that's just an oversight).

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The following games are listed as Windows games, despite being (first) released for MS-DOS:

DOOM: http://ocremix.org/game/110/doom-win

Released in 1993 for DOS as per http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/doom and to Windows only in 1995 as per http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/doom

Star Control 2: http://ocremix.org/game/351/star-control-ii-win

Released in 1992 for DOS as per http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/star-control-ii - there's no Windows release at all for the original SC2 (contra the open-source Ur-Quan Masters).

7th Guest: http://ocremix.org/game/26/7th-guest-win

Released in 1993 for DOS as per http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/7th-guest and to Windows only in 1997 as per http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/7th-guest

Legend of Kyrandia: http://ocremix.org/game/342/legend-of-kyrandia-win

Released in 1992 for DOS as per http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/legend-of-kyrandia and to Windows (3.x) in 1993 as per http://www.mobygames.com/game/win3x/legend-of-kyrandia 2012 edit: the latter has actually disappeared from MobyGames (the link goes to the Amiga release) Wikipedia doesn't list a Windows release.

Doom 2: http://ocremix.org/game/111/doom-ii-hell-on-earth-win

1994 for DOS: http://www.mobygames.com/game/doom-ii_

1995 for Windows: http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/doom-ii_

2012 edit: working links. I also notice that the 1995 Window release data (GT Interactive as a publisher) looks correct on OCR, it's just that the 1994 DOS release was the first one.

Highway Hunter: http://ocremix.org/game/503/highway-hunter-win

Only a DOS release in 1995: http://www.mobygames.com/game/highway-hunter

King's Quest V: http://ocremix.org/game/294/kings-quest-v-absence-makes-the-heart-go-yonder-win

DOS looks like the earliest release platform (1990): http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/kings-quest-v-absence-makes-the-heart-go-yonder

Win (3.x) in 1992: http://www.mobygames.com/game/win3x/kings-quest-v-absence-makes-the-heart-go-yonder

Mechwarrior 2: http://ocremix.org/game/278/mechwarrior-2-31st-century-combat-win

DOS release predates the Windows release by a few months: http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/mechwarrior-2-31st-century-combat vs http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/mechwarrior-2-31st-century-combat

Command & Conquer: http://ocremix.org/game/76/command-and-conquer-win

According to Wikipedia, it was first released for MS-DOS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer_(video_game) (MobyGames only listed 1995 for both)

--Eino

Bumping after 2+ years. ;) edit: Links checked and fixed.

--Eino

Edited by evktalo
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Tiny suggestion that would add a nice extra touch to ReMix pages/topic discussions: Use a video game character image appropriate for the ReMix. Any ReMixes that have an image assigned to them will override the random image. I don't think it is too hard to do programatically, but I know it will just be tedious to assign a specific image to hundreds of them. Not all of them would have a specific image, as there are many games either too under-represented/obscure that there's an available character image from them.

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What about ReMixes from games that have been released on several consoles? For example, http://ocremix.org/game/624/fallout-3-xb360 lists no remixes, but http://ocremix.org/game/623/fallout-3-ps3 and http://ocremix.org/game/622/fallout-3-win do. Is this just an oversight?

You say game assignment can only go to one game, and in the case of the only Fallout 3 ReMix on the site (http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR02077/), it's assigned to the PS3 version, but apparently, 2 games (database-wise), both the Windows and the PS3 versions of Fallout 3 list ORC02077 as being ReMixes of them (which totally makes sense other than that the Xbox version doesn't list that same ReMix). So what's stopping both Escape and Secret from listing OCR00670 (even if the ReMix itself only lists Escape)? There are several ReMixes that use sources from several different games and only list one game, but the game pages themselves all list that same ReMix (http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR02496/ being one example).

EDIT: I noticed the Windows version's list of songs refers to songs actually listed as being songs from the PS3 soundtrack. I am assuming, therefore, that the reason that the Xbox version doesn't list the ReMix is because it doesn't list the songs, either (which it should). Unless the song ReMixed in OCR00670 is identically the same in both the Monkey Island games, it wouldn't make sense to have either game refer to a song that's listed as being part of the other game, or you'd have to crosscheck every time a ReMix is posted whether the song it is a ReMix of exists in another game (take the Zelda overworld theme. Good lord). So... I guess it makes sense to do things the way you're doing them now (besides OCR02077 not being listed under the Xbox version of the game, that is, but again, I'm guessing that's just an oversight).

Yeah, that's a known issue with how games on similar platforms work. Need some extra coders. :-)

Bumping after 2+ years. ;) edit: Links checked and fixed.

--Eino

I haven't forgotten this, though it'll be a while before it's all fixed, since I want to carefully go through these. Once the systems are corrected in the actual mix tags in the next torrent update, then I can focus on working with djp to correct the database.

Tiny suggestion that would add a nice extra touch to ReMix pages/topic discussions: Use a video game character image appropriate for the ReMix. Any ReMixes that have an image assigned to them will override the random image. I don't think it is too hard to do programatically, but I know it will just be tedious to assign a specific image to hundreds of them. Not all of them would have a specific image, as there are many games either too under-represented/obscure that there's an available character image from them.

Interesting idea. This likely wouldn't happen for years, but I'll at least give things a look as far as matching up characters to games. If djp ever has free time to code something like this, maybe it could happen. Not likely, but I like the idea.

x68k's Akumajo Dracula is listed as a 2001 game, which is the PS1 version release year. X68000 version came out in 1993. wikipedia

Good catch. Fixed.

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I have an interesting suggestion. What if (obviously for V6) instead of a Latest ReMixes sidebar on the right, we put it across the top of the page? People tend to look at the top of a page more often than the bottom, so mixes that currently are nearing the bottom of the page may get less recognition, but it seems reasonable to believe that OCR wants approximately equal recognition for the Latest ReMixes. :) (Or do you think this would draw too much attention away from the Latest Release/Announcements?)

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