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Hello all,

I was wondering if the site has considered adding tags to the remixes to indicate genre? Could make it easier for people to find what they want.

I know it would take some work, but I'd be willing to help out. I recently decided to listen to EVERY remix in alphabetical order (I've just barely gotten to "D" so far) so it would be easy for me to type the tags for each one as I go.

The list I had in mind would be something like:

Electronica

Dance

Trance

Drum 'n' Bass

Accoustic

Beep-boop

Vocal

Metal

Hip Hop

Ambient

Orchestral

Big Band

Mustin

Cheerful

Sad

Bittersweet

Humorous

Adrenaline

Creepy

Dramatic

OCR Album

Of course others can be added.

I don't know whose call it is on whether such a project would be OK, but I hope they see this. Thoughts?

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Okay, I read the FAQ about genre tags.

I have to say - and I'm saying this as a fan - those are the lamest reasons I've ever heard.

Seriously, I thought it would be something pragmatic like "we don't have the time to categorise them" or something. But come on, the remixes don't fit cookie cutter labels? Big deal, that's what multiple tags are for. Opening people's minds? Hey, you just said the mixes don't perfectly fit the labels... let them put in Trance and listen to some new stuff they wouldn't get on any online Trance station.

As a living example, I'm offering to to do all the work involved in tagging the mixes (that's how gung ho I am for genre tags) and I just stated I'm listening to every single mix on the site in order even if they're not of a genre I normally like (even the metal ones, and that's saying a lot for me). I'd say that open minds and genre tags are perfectly compatible.

We're all here because we like video game music and I suspect most listeners will give a track a try, even a weird one if it's from a game they like. Being able to search by tag would only allow them to find something faster for a particular party, mood or playlist.

*sigh* djpretzel, if you read this, please know that my willingness to volunteer remains, and if you guys would ever be willing to change your minds, I'm here. I may not be able to mix music but I could at least do something useful for my favourite music site.

:/

ap

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No, the main reason is they don't want the site melting down from my nerdrage when people will inevitably tag Techno on anything that has even a remotely electronic element to it.

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No, the main reason is they don't want the site melting down from my nerdrage when people will inevitably tag Techno on anything that has even a remotely electronic element to it.

But that's the beautiful thing about multiple tags. If you don't like the way the "techno" tag is applied you can click on a more specific tag like "trance" or "Drum n Bass."

And actually I excluded "techno" from my proposed list of tags precisely because it would be over- and mis-applied.

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What is this obsession with catagorising every peice of music? It kind of sucks out the inidividualism and personality of music if you insist on giving it a label. Just enjoy it for what it is and put your tag guns away.

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I'm not sure how long ago that part of the FAQ was written, but I know the idea of tags has been floated by several people (check out this thread, for starters), and without having talked to him, I'd guess djp is probably not as averse to having functional tags rather than genre tags; something that objectively describes the song (violins, synths, vocals) rather than labelling it with a genre which could be contentious. You can practically already do searches on write-ups to get all the mixes where a certain instrument is mentioned, so using tags would just facilitate that.

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suggestion: if you feel that passionately about putting things into tiny little boxes, nobody's stopping you from making your own website listing the remixes and providing either your own categorizations and/or a user-driven tagging system. obviously it might not get as much traffic as if it were integrated on the ocremix.org site, but it would work just as well in terms of doing what you're envisioning. but you better have quite the supply of patience for the endless stream of irresolvable flamewars about proper use of terminology that would land at your feet.

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I'm not sure how long ago that part of the FAQ was written, but I know the idea of tags has been floated by several people (check out this thread, for starters), and without having talked to him, I'd guess djp is probably not as averse to having functional tags rather than genre tags; something that objectively describes the song (violins, synths, vocals) rather than labelling it with a genre which could be contentious. You can practically already do searches on write-ups to get all the mixes where a certain instrument is mentioned, so using tags would just facilitate that.

Bingo. Well, sign me up for helping with that, then.

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suggestion: if you feel that passionately about putting things into tiny little boxes, nobody's stopping you from making your own website listing the remixes and providing either your own categorizations and/or a user-driven tagging system. obviously it might not get as much traffic as if it were integrated on the ocremix.org site, but it would work just as well in terms of doing what you're envisioning. but you better have quite the supply of patience for the endless stream of irresolvable flamewars about proper use of terminology that would land at your feet.

Since this would take a lot more time and technological know-how than what I offered to do, it's not really possible for me right now. If others out there would be willing to help I would totally do it. Flame wars wouldn't be a problem because there need be no public forum on a simple remix index site :)

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suggestion: if you feel that passionately about putting things into tiny little boxes, nobody's stopping you from making your own website listing the remixes and providing either your own categorizations and/or a user-driven tagging system. obviously it might not get as much traffic as if it were integrated on the ocremix.org site, but it would work just as well in terms of doing what you're envisioning. but you better have quite the supply of patience for the endless stream of irresolvable flamewars about proper use of terminology that would land at your feet.

Somebody did that already. It failed.

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Even going away from genres completely and doing tags according to moods, it feels exclusionary, but that's just my opinion. I'd at least be open to non-genre tags, but I'd rather do without them entirely. Try everything.

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Again, it wouldn't prevent people from trying a lot of things. It would allow them to find things for a specific playlist or purpose quickly, which would be quite useful.

Frankly I'm astonished by how strongly people feel that tags are bad. It's just convenient.

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People are scared that if you tag the music everybody would go straight to trance or rock and avoid the country and such.

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People are scared that if you tag the music everybody would go straight to trance or rock and avoid the country and such.

The same can be said about each game.

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The same can be said about each game.

I dunno about you guys but I avoid FPSes and RPGes and MMORPGs and Rhythm and RTSes and Action and Adventure and Puzzle games like the plague

(did I miss anything)

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People are scared that if you tag the music everybody would go straight to trance or rock and avoid the country and such.

The same can be said about each game.

The same can be said about each game.

FACE!!

P.S. - I love that I'm my own genre hahaha

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I dunno about you guys but I avoid FPSes and RPGes and MMORPGs and Rhythm and RTSes and Action and Adventure and Puzzle games like the plague

(did I miss anything)

Action-RPG (Like Zelda 2 and Crystalis). :3

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The same can be said about each game.
FACE!!

My point was "Let's not tag the music so we can trick people into listening to music genres they do not like".

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