Imagist Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 I think Tables just saved this thread. Also, Arek, you don't have me on your list. I should be. Quote
Sengin Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 And I suppose that "Sengen" is referring to me? Quote
nookster Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 You guys have to promise me something. We'll have another tournament by the time europe gets brawl Quote
Devyn Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 I think the gaming community has kinda been split in two since the video game industry came up with the whole "casual vs. hardcore" thing. Quote
Zombie Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 -Luigi's Mansionhouse stops momentum and makes it very difficult to fight Ok, in the many time that I have played the stage, nothing like that has ever happened to me. What the hell. Quote
Triad Orion Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Ok, in the many time that I have played the stage, nothing like that has ever happened to me. What the hell. I think Atma's talking that the low ceilings of the rooms make fighting really cramped and the support beams that hold up the house get in the way and mess up attacks. Generally speaking, projectiles get eaten by the beams and your blows get interfered with. Essentially, while the house is up, your launching momentum is limited in the house thanks to low, hard ceilings and the support beams getting in the way. Quote
Imagist Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Brawl as DK 20 times. But trust me, the stage alone is not worth the trouble. Crap stage is crap. Quote
JCvgluvr Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 [spoilers]Fight as Donkey Kong 20 times.[endspoilers] Quote
Global-Trance Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 That is no reason to ban a stage. While we're at it, let's change football so that both teams play on the steep hillside of a volcano with one team always at the top and one team always at the bottom and never changing sides. Quote
!Nekko! Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Are there any "official" tourney maps made with the custom editor, yet? I'd like to check those out. Quote
Global-Trance Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Doubt it. Also you can't play custom maps online. Quote
Jam Stunna Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 I added Dhsu, Kutrayn, Sologamer, Airwalker, and a few other people. Add me when you get a chance. Quote
friendlyHunter Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 While we're at it, let's change football so that both teams play on the steep hillside of a volcano with one team always at the top and one team always at the bottom and never changing sides. Yeah, and let's build a stadium at a really high altitude so the players have comparatively little oxygen, and when it gets really foggy or starts snowing the game has to continue- OH WAIT!!! Smash Bros. analogies about sports are kind of silly (though admittedly I've used one in the past... a silly one at that). But I can agree there is more than one reason to ban Luigi's Mansion. Yeah, no custom stages online is kind of silly. And apparently you can't even COPY the "stage of the day" from Nintendo, allowing you to keep it for later, or make it better? Maybe that's why all the daily stages I've seen so far looked like they took 1 minute to build... Quote
Overflow Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 What's wrong with random stages? They're fun! Quote
Makai Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 What's wrong with random stages? They're fun! It's a tournament... You're not playing just for fun. It's a measure of skill, and random elements can produce inaccurate results. Quote
Global-Trance Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Yeah, and let's build a stadium at a really high altitude so the players have comparatively little oxygen, and when it gets really foggy or starts snowing the game has to continue- OH WAIT!!!Smash Bros. analogies about sports are kind of silly (though admittedly I've used one in the past... a silly one at that). But I can agree there is more than one reason to ban Luigi's Mansion. Yeah, no custom stages online is kind of silly. And apparently you can't even COPY the "stage of the day" from Nintendo, allowing you to keep it for later, or make it better? Maybe that's why all the daily stages I've seen so far looked like they took 1 minute to build... Yea they are silly but they still apply. The point of this kind of tournament is to determine who is the best Smasher in terms of handling their characters against another without any random elements to be worried about. Just one person against another. That's it. With the hyper competitive kind of people on this board, it is no surprise if we run into someone here who will get beat and say "Well you just won because of that Starman," or "Well if that bomb didn't show up while I was charging my smash attack, I would have won. Thus I am still better than you," or some crap along the same lines. People are way too prideful. By eliminating things that give any particular character an overwhelming advantage and standardize everything, it's much easier to gauge actual skill in character handling and there will be far less reasons for people to whine about losing. That is all. A tournament must be held by somebody's rules and standards. If you think a tournament should be run with different rules, then hold one yourself. I'm sure other people will enter anyways. Quote
Red Shadow Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 I added Dhsu, Kutrayn, Sologamer, Airwalker, and a few other people. Add me when you get a chance. get online, kid Quote
Eten Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 I can agree with removing random elements for the same reasons, but "standardize" things based on what? Is something like Final Destination inherently more "standard" than Luigi's Mansion? No! A stage like Luigi's mansion is just another part of the game. Someone who's good at Brawl is someone who would win both at Final Destination AND Luigi's Mansion. Cutting out Luigi's Mansion for some silly reason like the one listed is simply an artificial restructuring of Brawl based on what YOU arbitrarily think is a test of skill and what isn't. Those stages with more interesting course elements are still completely fair stages for competitive play. They just involve a larger factor of stage manipulation than simpler stages. Even the stages that have some minor random elements, as long as those things give warning and are avoidable, which is the majority of them, it does not create the same issues as the randomness of items do. Quote
Global-Trance Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I do not understand the thing about Luigi's Mansion though. Last I checked, it wasn't banned anyways. Quote
Jam Stunna Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 get online, kid I can't connect to WFC, which is really strange because I'm posting this from my Wii. Curse you Lag-Fi! Quote
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