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Old 03-13-2005, 05:15 PM
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Excellent remix. I love how the original mix gets stretched, the bassline of the original song gets redone and redone, and then the insane guitar comes out to play. Bravo!

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If you're looking for a solid Super Mario Bros. ReMix. . .then prepare to be sorely disappointed. If you're looking for a generic metal song with lots of ripping synthetic guitars and some SMB thrown in for the Hell of it. . .you've got the right ReMix.

In my opinion, this wasn't worth the time it took to download. If I wanted something original and metally(?), I'd hit up Newgrounds or MP3.com or something. This is hardly a ReMix at all. More like an original composition with the Super Mario Bros. theme thrown in here and there just for the Hell of it. And even then, it's only a half-decent original composition. And on that note, this ReMix strongly reminds me of "The Legend of Zelda UnderWorldPressureCooker," by wRenchpilot. . . And not in a good way, either. In a sort of. . ."I couldn't think of anything better to do" way.

I'm sorry, but this completely fails to impress me in any aspect at all. How this became an OverClocked ReMix is beyond me.
Maybe because those here have better musical listening skills and taste, here. Almost the entire song uses the bass lines and the main lines from the original, reworked with many different instruments in different parts of the song, and extrapolates the main part and the bassline all over the song; sometimes together, sometimes seperate.

But I probably lost you the second I typed "bass lines". I'm guessing you never paid attention to that when you played the original game.
Stepping aside from the flaming here, there is absolutely no question about the level of arrangement here. Like Joseph Collins here pointed out, and it's certainly something I heard on my own while judging it, the usage of the source tune is perfectly recognizeable throughout the major majority of the mix. Even voting NO on it myself, that kind of conclusion isn't even close to true.
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Old 03-13-2005, 06:09 PM
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I remember that thread by Evil_Ice. I even posted in it a few times. I remember PriZM taking up the challenge. I recall his very first WIP from all the versions to the submission. Personally, this is the style of a remix that I like hereing, a small phrase manipulated over and over to create a new beast. Good job, PriZM.
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Old 03-13-2005, 06:47 PM
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Re: Booooooooooriiiiiiiiiing!

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Originally Posted by Joseph Collins
If you're looking for a solid Super Mario Bros. ReMix. . .then prepare to be sorely disappointed. If you're looking for a generic metal song with lots of ripping synthetic guitars and some SMB thrown in for the Hell of it. . .you've got the right ReMix.

In my opinion, this wasn't worth the time it took to download. If I wanted something original and metally(?), I'd hit up Newgrounds or MP3.com or something. This is hardly a ReMix at all. More like an original composition with the Super Mario Bros. theme thrown in here and there just for the Hell of it. And even then, it's only a half-decent original composition. And on that note, this ReMix strongly reminds me of "The Legend of Zelda UnderWorldPressureCooker," by wRenchpilot. . . And not in a good way, either. In a sort of. . ."I couldn't think of anything better to do" way.

I'm sorry, but this completely fails to impress me in any aspect at all. How this became an OverClocked ReMix is beyond me.
Metal? Was the remix replaced with another one after you wrote that? I hear nothing even remotely metal about it. Yes, there's guitars ("Heavy" ones at that) toward the end. But that doesn't make it metal. If it didn't have those techno(?) drums, then perhaps I could see some logic in calling it metal.
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Old 03-13-2005, 07:20 PM
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lots of ripping synthetic guitars
Just wanted to clear something up here. I never use synth guitars, I prefer to record my own. I figured it would be obvious while listening to the song. God I just wish negative criticism was more constructive.

Before we go on about the song being too much original material, I will tell you how I did it. Keep in mind that there are two instruments in the original, one we will call the bass and the other the drones.

0:00 - 0:10 -> Bass line from the source used as an organ intro

0:10 - 0:22 -> Complete original material

0:22 - 0:33 -> aHa ! Same complete original material with the drones played on guitar added to it.

0:33 - 1:20 -> Basically the source with an added drum beat.

1:20 - 2:00 -> Original material following the chromatic structure of the source

2:00 - 2:25 -> Bass line from the source spread over 8 measures, supposed to be recognizable

2:25 - 2:47 -> Same thing with the added drones played on guitar.

2:47 - 3:23 -> Heavy guitars playing my original material with a solo lead guitar playing the bass line from Kondo's song as a melody.

3:23 - 4:00 -> Guitar solo over my heavy rhythm guitar and the melody still playing in background.

4:00 - 4:15 -> One second original material / one second drones.

So 52 seconds of original material always resolving on something from Kondo. This is about 20% of the song.
Anyways I'm not here to prove anything to anybody, just wanted to clear things up, because I spent weeks trying to write something interesting with a 3bars source material without even a melody, and I don't appreciate people bashing on my song without an apparent or justifiable reason.
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Old 03-13-2005, 07:57 PM
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I absolutley adore the ending of this song.

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Old 03-13-2005, 08:30 PM
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I was a bit worried that bowser wasn't as pissed as he could be until I heard the electric guitar come in at 2:40 or so, which then made me 110% impressed with this track and its ability to recreate Bowser's theme.
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Old 03-13-2005, 09:48 PM
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That's so good. This other version is very diversified. You substituted some instruments. And I love the rock concept in 02:47.
Yes. I heard it before in WIP forum. I love it.

Overall, nice mix. I was listening to that more than the original track! Aww, much better. That's really quite cool. Sweeping guitar in my ears. That make me shady laugh. Pure rock! In my opinion, that's really good to a new Mario game. Seriously, in Bowser's Castle or something thus. Because this opens my imagination to frightful things. "Okey dokey!" "Mamamia! We've been nailed by the tools in our pockets!" The beats makes me dance. And the other instruments are great. The melody created is good too (01:18/02:25). Hell! A very high quality mix. Nice work, PriZm. I can't wait to hear more from you in the future.

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Old 03-13-2005, 10:56 PM
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Hm.. I have to say I loved the beginning (until 0:20) it sounded very hm.. mighty? I hoped it would continue like this, but well, guess it just didn't hit my style. But the beginning was awesome ^^'
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Old 03-14-2005, 01:41 AM
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"Okey dokey!" "Mamamia! We've been nailed by the tools in our pockets!"
lmfao. hilarious.

Anyway, this ReMix completely rocks. It truly is amazing what Prizm's done with it, considering the original. This is hot.
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Old 03-14-2005, 02:10 AM
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The 1-Up tune at 1:18 is a nice touch!

Overall, a nice weird mix of techno and metal IMO.
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